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		<title>By: matter</title>
		<link>http://www.pearsonified.com/2006/03/traffic_light_logic.php#comment-183120</link>
		<dc:creator>matter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 20:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ridiculous!

The accident you describe was clearly your fault.  When one approaches a yellow light, one should stop (if one can stop safely) not &quot;gun it&quot; to try to blast through the intersection.  Furthermore, a vehicle which is already in the intersection has the right of way.  That is why people who KNOW how to turn left enter the intersection on a green light in the first place... to gain the right of way, so that they can complete their turn when the light turns red.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ridiculous!</p>
<p>The accident you describe was clearly your fault.  When one approaches a yellow light, one should stop (if one can stop safely) not &#8220;gun it&#8221; to try to blast through the intersection.  Furthermore, a vehicle which is already in the intersection has the right of way.  That is why people who KNOW how to turn left enter the intersection on a green light in the first place&#8230; to gain the right of way, so that they can complete their turn when the light turns red.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.pearsonified.com/2006/03/traffic_light_logic.php#comment-182972</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Nebraska, horizontal traffic lights are used all over the state, except for Omaha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Nebraska, horizontal traffic lights are used all over the state, except for Omaha.</p>
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		<title>By: Frix</title>
		<link>http://www.pearsonified.com/2006/03/traffic_light_logic.php#comment-180934</link>
		<dc:creator>Frix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this post reminded me of the poem that i memorize as a contest piece when i was in grade two: &quot;Stop and Go. When you go down the street, use your eyes, then your feet. Boy and girls you should know, red is stop and green is go.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this post reminded me of the poem that i memorize as a contest piece when i was in grade two: &#8220;Stop and Go. When you go down the street, use your eyes, then your feet. Boy and girls you should know, red is stop and green is go.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.pearsonified.com/2006/03/traffic_light_logic.php#comment-180379</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 19:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As for horizontally mounted signal heads, it’s simply preference. We mount ours horizontally because it looks nicer.&quot;

Perhaps you should reconsider. I&#039;ve discussed this issue with two color-blind Texans. They can tell whether it&#039;s the left or the right side that is lit, but when it&#039;s late in the day and they&#039;re a little tired, it&#039;s hard to remember whether it&#039;s red on left and green on right, or the other way around. Nobody confuses top and bottom, but confusing left and right is very common. For the sake of safety, you shouldn&#039;t rely on a signal that 3 or 4 percent of the population cannot read and have to memorize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As for horizontally mounted signal heads, it’s simply preference. We mount ours horizontally because it looks nicer.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps you should reconsider. I&#8217;ve discussed this issue with two color-blind Texans. They can tell whether it&#8217;s the left or the right side that is lit, but when it&#8217;s late in the day and they&#8217;re a little tired, it&#8217;s hard to remember whether it&#8217;s red on left and green on right, or the other way around. Nobody confuses top and bottom, but confusing left and right is very common. For the sake of safety, you shouldn&#8217;t rely on a signal that 3 or 4 percent of the population cannot read and have to memorize.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Whiteside</title>
		<link>http://www.pearsonified.com/2006/03/traffic_light_logic.php#comment-179879</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Whiteside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They type of signalization that you are referring to that almost caused our accident is a protected/permitted signal .  It allows people to turn left when the through lanes have green lights.  Since people are able to turn left without a protected traffic signal having them turn left later doesn&#039;t really help all that much because they are still going to be trying to inch through the intersection when the light is green.  There are sight distance issues.  That&#039;s why some intersections are protected/permitted and some are just protected.  The only way to avoid all of these accidents is to make all lights protected.  

Also, those lights are about 4 ft tall, so when you turn them horizontally, the structure holding them up doesn&#039;t need to be as tall to maintain the same vertical clearance.  Also, the area subjected to wind (in something like a hurricane) is less so they don&#039;t have to be as stout either.  It saves money.  

You can&#039;t change all the signals in a locale anyway because of driver expectancy... drivers expect the same thing to happen at all traffic lights (and in all traffic situations) every time.  If you change all the traffic signals, people gun it when they see a green light even if the light isn&#039;t green for their particular movement.  It would cause all kinds of accidents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They type of signalization that you are referring to that almost caused our accident is a protected/permitted signal .  It allows people to turn left when the through lanes have green lights.  Since people are able to turn left without a protected traffic signal having them turn left later doesn&#8217;t really help all that much because they are still going to be trying to inch through the intersection when the light is green.  There are sight distance issues.  That&#8217;s why some intersections are protected/permitted and some are just protected.  The only way to avoid all of these accidents is to make all lights protected.  </p>
<p>Also, those lights are about 4 ft tall, so when you turn them horizontally, the structure holding them up doesn&#8217;t need to be as tall to maintain the same vertical clearance.  Also, the area subjected to wind (in something like a hurricane) is less so they don&#8217;t have to be as stout either.  It saves money.  </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t change all the signals in a locale anyway because of driver expectancy&#8230; drivers expect the same thing to happen at all traffic lights (and in all traffic situations) every time.  If you change all the traffic signals, people gun it when they see a green light even if the light isn&#8217;t green for their particular movement.  It would cause all kinds of accidents.</p>
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		<title>By: Danni</title>
		<link>http://www.pearsonified.com/2006/03/traffic_light_logic.php#comment-173922</link>
		<dc:creator>Danni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.... this makes a boatload of sense to me. I recently moved from Orlando, Florida, where the turning traffic goes first, to Virginia Beach, Virginia, Where straight traffic goes first. It&#039;s been very hard to get used to and I couldn&#039;t figure out for the life of me why the hell it would be like that but now it makes perfect sense. Chris, you&#039;re awesome! Maybe now I&#039;ll start appreciating it instead of bitching about it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;. this makes a boatload of sense to me. I recently moved from Orlando, Florida, where the turning traffic goes first, to Virginia Beach, Virginia, Where straight traffic goes first. It&#8217;s been very hard to get used to and I couldn&#8217;t figure out for the life of me why the hell it would be like that but now it makes perfect sense. Chris, you&#8217;re awesome! Maybe now I&#8217;ll start appreciating it instead of bitching about it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike K</title>
		<link>http://www.pearsonified.com/2006/03/traffic_light_logic.php#comment-172552</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 01:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ BT Manning,

Not all signals in Canada have the double red on one signal.  In fact I think that&#039;s only for Quebec.

My wife and I vacationed in Victoria and Vancouver, BC recently and the signals are just like the US except the 12&quot;green and yellow with 18&quot; red are more common than the 18&quot; for all three.  The only thing that got me about lights there were the flashing greens at pedestrian crosswalks; such as in front of schools.  Oh and the green left turn arrow will also flash if it is going to become a regular left turn yield.

Thing is about driving in Vancouver is that there are very few devoted left turn lanes and most streets are rather narrow!  The only time you see them are at the very big intersections in the suburbs.  Otherwise, if you&#039;re driving in the left lane on a regular street and don&#039;t want to turn left, odds are you&#039;ll get stuck behind someone who does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ BT Manning,</p>
<p>Not all signals in Canada have the double red on one signal.  In fact I think that&#8217;s only for Quebec.</p>
<p>My wife and I vacationed in Victoria and Vancouver, BC recently and the signals are just like the US except the 12&#8243;green and yellow with 18&#8243; red are more common than the 18&#8243; for all three.  The only thing that got me about lights there were the flashing greens at pedestrian crosswalks; such as in front of schools.  Oh and the green left turn arrow will also flash if it is going to become a regular left turn yield.</p>
<p>Thing is about driving in Vancouver is that there are very few devoted left turn lanes and most streets are rather narrow!  The only time you see them are at the very big intersections in the suburbs.  Otherwise, if you&#8217;re driving in the left lane on a regular street and don&#8217;t want to turn left, odds are you&#8217;ll get stuck behind someone who does.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Pearson</title>
		<link>http://www.pearsonified.com/2006/03/traffic_light_logic.php#comment-172547</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Pearson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a class=&quot;comment_link&quot; href=&quot;http://www.pearsonified.com/2006/03/traffic_light_logic.php/comment-page-1#comment-172546&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eris&lt;/a&gt; — That&#039;s wild! The Internet is a crazy, crazy place :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="comment_link" href="http://www.pearsonified.com/2006/03/traffic_light_logic.php/comment-page-1#comment-172546" rel="nofollow">Eris</a> — That&#8217;s wild! The Internet is a crazy, crazy place :D</p>
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		<title>By: Eris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 04:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t normally bother commenting on a three year old post, but coincidences and the internet pretty much forced my hand. I was on a Google quest for the exact rules on turning right at a red light with a green arrow because I recently got a ticket. The coincidence? The intersection was at Westheimer and 610;  I was on my way to work at Air Liquide!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t normally bother commenting on a three year old post, but coincidences and the internet pretty much forced my hand. I was on a Google quest for the exact rules on turning right at a red light with a green arrow because I recently got a ticket. The coincidence? The intersection was at Westheimer and 610;  I was on my way to work at Air Liquide!</p>
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		<title>By: B T Manning</title>
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		<dc:creator>B T Manning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turn if you must.  In the U.S,A I think red is on the left.  In Japan red
is on the right.  In Canada the red is on both ends.  My color-blind friends
have it tough if you mix it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turn if you must.  In the U.S,A I think red is on the left.  In Japan red<br />
is on the right.  In Canada the red is on both ends.  My color-blind friends<br />
have it tough if you mix it up.</p>
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